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The Mark Simone Show

Mark interviews author Mark Malkoff.

The Mark Simone Show

iHeartRadio and Mark Simone

News

4.3695 Ratings

🗓️ 6 February 2026

⏱️ 12 minutes

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Summary

Their conversation centers on Johnny Carson’s legacy of making stars of his guests and on speculation about the future of late-night television, with Malkoff predicting its potential end depending on changes in the broadcasting landscape.

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0:00.0

You have to get. It's the definitive best book ever written about Johnny Carson. It's called Love Johnny Carson. Just get this book. Trust me. You'll love it. The book's called Love Johnny Carson. It's by Mark Malkoff, who for the past few years has been doing the Carson podcast. And's had 600 guests everybody that was ever on this

0:23.7

night show everybody that ever worked at the Tonight Show it's riveting I've listened to every episode

0:28.4

each one two or three times but get the new book called Love Johnny Carson the author is with us

0:35.0

right now Mark Malkoff, how you doing?

0:39.8

Mark, I'm doing great. Nice to talk to you, sir.

0:46.8

Hey. Now, here's the problem. You have a lot of TV people today, talk show hosts, but they're just kind of there.

0:51.2

You don't have giants anymore. Back then you had these giant legendary TV figures.

0:54.1

You will never see another Johnny Carson, will we?

0:56.5

I don't think so.

1:02.4

I mean, everyone in the nation at 1130 would tune in for his take on the day.

1:07.9

I mean, it's been said that, you know, he really wasn't political because he didn't want to take size and alienate half his audience.

1:09.8

He wanted to do an entertainment show show and everybody passed through that show.

1:14.6

Yeah, that's a good point.

1:15.9

The reason you waited for that monologue, you wanted to get a funny take on the politicians,

1:21.5

the president, whatever happened that day.

1:22.9

But today's world, you hear 47 talk radio shows and 12 cable news shows so you've

1:28.5

by the time it's 1130 you've had 87,000 takes on everything what's the late night

1:33.8

else to do it's really different he liked to not really take he didn't really want to

1:39.2

take sides but I will tell you something George W. Herbert Walker Bush when he was

1:43.8

president it was secret.

1:45.5

He was all set to go on the show in 1992 and announced that he was going to present the Presidential Medal of Freedom to Carson.

1:53.0

And Carson secretly told one of his writers that he was planning and voting for Bush.

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