Mark Hertling: Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Gamer

The Bulwark Podcast

The Bulwark

Politics, News, News Commentary

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🗓️ 13 April 2023

⏱️ 42 minutes

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The military runs on young soldiers, and sometimes, chatroom braggarts who want to share classified documents get recruited too. Plus, the real world damage in Ukraine from the leaks, and Putin's paranoia. Lt. Gen. Mark Hertling joins Charlie Sykes today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Welcome to the Bull of Work podcast. I'm Charlie Sykes. It is April 13th, 2023. We're
0:14.2	almost to the end of the week. There's a lot of things that are going on. I don't know
0:18.8	how things could have turned out worse for the Tennessee Republican Party. They really
0:22.6	become the poster state for political meltdown. Interesting development in Arizona where there
0:27.9	was an election denier who was so extreme that even Republicans in the house decided they
0:33.1	could do without her and she was expelled as the story of Liz Harris and election denying
0:37.1	Republican lawmaker who was expelled on a bipartisan vote. Democrats have their own
0:42.5	headaches with Diane Feinstein. The speculation is rising that she's not actually going to
0:47.7	come back to the Senate depriving the Democrats of her vote. And there is now a push to
0:53.6	get her to resign, which she is not doing so far. Meanwhile, if you ever wondered what witness
0:58.4	intimidation and broad daylight looked like, Trump is suing his ex-lawyer Michael Cohen at the moment
1:04.6	that Cohen appears poised to become a star witness against him in a criminal trial in New York.
1:09.6	The fight over abortion pills remains a complete cluster. You know what? Fox News had another
1:15.4	epically crappy day in court. We'll talk about that on tomorrow's podcast on the Grift Watch.
1:21.7	New reports, the special counsel is focusing on Trump's fundraising off false election claims.
1:28.6	But let's start with this story, which is just so mind bending. The story of the leaked Pentagon
1:37.1	documents about Ukraine and we are joined by retired lieutenant General Mark Hurtling. General,
1:44.1	welcome back to the podcast. Hey Charlie, it's great to be with you once again. Some interesting news.
1:49.3	Well, there's a lot going on and I just want to get your sense of, you know, this leak, how it happened,
1:53.6	how bad it is, what it tells us where we're at. Let's start with the breaking news out of the
1:58.9	Washington Post, whose journalism may be a little bit derivative of what Bellingcat reported a
2:04.6	little bit earlier, but they believe they have identified the leaker of the secret documents,
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