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The Bulwark Podcast

Mark Hertling: Contrary to American Values

The Bulwark Podcast

The Bulwark

Politics, News, News Commentary

4.68.9K Ratings

🗓️ 11 June 2025

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

Trump keeps wrapping himself in the American flag while while behaving in a very anti-American way—like threatening to shut down protests at his $45 million birthday parade or giving a highly partisan speech in front of soldiers in violation of military policy. And as the haphazardly deployed Marines join federalized Guard troops in LA, Trump seems hellbent on escalating his feud with Gavin Newsom—and the giant blue state that rejects him. Plus, Putin looks to gain an advantage in Ukraine while America is distracted, and Tulsi may have disclosed state secrets to the entire world.

Gen. Mark Hertling joins Tim Miller.
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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to the Bullard podcast. I'm your host, Tim Miller.

0:15.8

Delighted to welcome back, retired Lieutenant General. He's a former commanding general of the U.S. Army of Europe.

0:21.9

It's Mark Hurtling. How you doing, sir? Hey, good, Tim. How are you? I'm doing well.

0:26.5

Appreciate you coming on today, kind of on short notice. I got to tell you, I was pretty shook

0:32.1

by President Trump's speech yesterday at Fort Bragg. Obviously, there have been actual policies that I've

0:39.3

found more appalling since he's been in, but just as a scene, it might have been the most dispiriting

0:45.0

scene, I think, for me, since the inauguration. I speak in front of a bunch of soldiers

0:49.3

commemorating the 250th anniversary. I try not to do clips of him for people because, you know, everybody

0:55.9

needs a break. They can watch them on the news if they want. But I'm more interested in the

1:00.0

reaction than in Trump's words. So if you don't mind, I've got a little highlight, low light reel,

1:05.7

if you will, from the speech. I want to play and get your reaction to it.

1:08.7

The fake news, ladies and gentlemen, look at them.

1:11.1

Look at them all.

1:11.9

What I have to put up with.

1:14.5

Fake news.

1:18.3

What I have to put up with, you think this crowd would have showed up for Biden?

1:23.0

I don't think so.

1:24.8

I don't think so.

1:26.8

Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I'm wrong. In Los Angeles, the governor of

1:32.4

California, the mayor of Los Angeles. They're incompetent. Yes, active duty military. They're booing booing fake news former commander-in-chief

1:47.6

would you have a news some what did you make of that you said you were shook by it i was too

1:52.2

i was also embarrassed but i'll lead in by saying you know the the military especially the army

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