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I'm Elvis Mitchell. I'm always happy to have people return to the show. My guest, Mark Harris, was last here with his terrific book, Pictures Out of Revolution. His new book, I'm holding it right here in front of me with one of the best jackets I've seen on a book ever, is Five Came Back. It's really a look at the way that five directors, George Stevens, William Wyler, Frank Capra, John Houston,

and John Ford went over and shot documentaries during World War II, and what they went through

shooting those films, what their lives were like when they came back. First of all, Mark,

thanks so much for coming back. Thanks for having me, Elvis. And tell this book, Jack, you must be

thrilled about this book. I am really thrilled about it.

It was a pretty steep challenge because we wanted to get my name on it, the title, the

subtitle, and all five of the directors.

And then we had to find a picture that conveyed some sense of World War II and filming, and a kind of overall

aesthetic that felt 1940s without kind of slipping over into kitschy Rosie the Riveter stuff.

So the designers at Penguin did a lot of iterations of it and I couldn't be happier

with what they came up with. One of the things that you do so well, and it really starts for me,

I guess, in pictures of revolution, is that incredible ambition that can only bring you the

show business that also makes you unfit to be any place else in the world, is it exemplified

in some way another by these five directors, isn't it?

I think so.

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