Um, this episode of Skeptico, a show about feeling out of place.

Central pay, Dubai. We've done our fair share of travel. When I tell you, I have never in my life seen a city with this level of wealth. the cheapest cheeseburger is like $86.

You cannot get a cheeseburger for less than $80.

The club sandwich is $75.

A coffee is $25.

And when that might not be a bad thing, there's a certain tone deafness to people who hang out in Davos,

Switzerland, and eat $50 hamburgers. I'd heard about Davos, and it was this idea of you're an

influential person, and this is a place where people are going to help the world. Back to your

earlier point, of course they're being deceptive. Of course they're being elitist.

Of course they think that the sheep need to be herded.

They're so beyond that it's second nature to him.

I think it's more helpful to switch to Kissinger because I think you can only understand Klaus Schwab by understanding Henry Kissinger.

That first clip was from the Logan Paul gang on their trip to Davos.

The second was from today's guest, Mark Gober, returning guest, with his new book,

and end to the upside down reset.

Welcome to Skeptico, where we explore controversial science and spirituality with leading researchers, thinkers, and their critics.

I'm your host, Alex Zakarison. Today, we welcome Mark Gower back to Skeptico. Mark keeps

cranking out these fantastic books in his upside-down series,

and I just keep having them back because they're so good every time I run across one of them.

And the last one, and end to upside-down reset, is no exception. And Mark, it's great to have you back. Thanks for

joining me here on Skeptico. Alex, thank you so much for having me back. It's always fun chatting

with you and I'm looking forward to this topic. Well, this topic, as it turns out, this is almost like,

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