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Hello and welcome to this week's Intelligence Squared podcast with me Farra Gossat and me Daniel Ben Corin.

This week we interview the journalist Mark Galliotti about Putin and Russia.

Daniel he's written a book about Russia hasn't he?

Yeah, so his book is called We Need to Talk About Putin,

Why the West gets him wrong, and how to get him right.

So Mark Galiotti is one of the UK's top Russia experts,

and he was interviewed by Edward Lucas who's

a columnist for The Times. Just before we go to this week's episode if you're

interested in coming to any of the Intelligence Squared events that happen live in

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promo code podcast at the checkout we've got an event on the 29th of August in Houston with

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