I look at business as a sport, and I just love to compete.

I just like to be intellectually challenged.

I'm an independent.

I don't care about parties.

I can care less.

I want to be where different viewpoints are, an intellectual response rather than just

you suck response that you get on social media.

What happens when AI collides with salesmanship, streaming era sports, and America's

most broken industry, healthcare.

On today's episode, I'm joined by Mark Cuban, entrepreneur, Dallas Mavericks co-owner, and founder

of Cost Plus drugs.

We get into why he likes fiery group chats, the sales playbook behind modern politics, how

algorithms and AI are reshaping media, what he fixed first in U.S. healthcare,

and discuss the hard-won lessons from owning an NBA team in the streaming era.

Let's get into it.

Mark, thanks for coming to the podcast.

Thanks for having me on. I'm excited to be here.

So we spent a lot of time last couple years or so,

but most of that time digitally and on group chats. And one question that often I get in the group chat sphere is, how do these billionaires have so much time to be on group chats? To which I say, oh, that's actually the highest form, you know, Maslow's hierarchy of needs. Once you really make it, then you want to argue with your friends and have interesting conversations. What's your reflection on what you get out of these or why you spend time on?

You want to learn. You want to challenge yourself. You want to see what other people think and why.

Because, you know, in a world that's changing the way it is, I want to be where different

viewpoints are and have it be an intellectual response rather than just a you suck response

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