Hey y'all, it's Elise here and I'm so excited to share an episode of rethinking with Adam Grant.

Adam is no stranger to this podcast and I know you've heard some of the episodes of Work Life.

But this is a new weekly podcast that explores the psychology of some of the world's most

fascinating people.

Adam brings curiosity and science to conversations with his favorite thinkers, from business leaders

to artists, academics to athletes, about the opinions and assumptions we should all be revisiting.

If you like the episode, you can follow rethinking with Adam Grant wherever you're listening to this.

Hey everyone, it's Adam Grant.

Welcome back to rethinking, my podcast on the science of what makes us tick.

I'm an organizational psychologist and I'm taking you inside the minds of fascinating people

to explore how they think and what we should all rethink.

My guest today is Mark Cuban, the outspoken serial entrepreneur,

Shark Tank investor, and owner of the NBA's Dallas Mavericks.

Mark's latest venture, Cost Plus Drugs, is made hundreds of prescriptions more affordable.

We have a rolicant conversation about what it takes to disrupt an industry and when to bet on a person and an idea.

We also discussed some basketball rules that I think are long overdue for change

and why it's terrible advice to follow your passion.

So Mark Cuban, I think it was six years ago that you came to visit us at Wharton and I don't

know if you remember this, but you did something I have never seen a speaker do before or since,

which is you went to the campus bar and you hung out with students, I think it was past midnight.

I thought that was an incredible mark of character, but tell me why did you do it?

I wanted a beer.

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