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The Lawfare Podcast

Mark Bergen on the Rise and Rise of YouTube

The Lawfare Podcast

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4.76.4K Ratings

🗓️ 4 October 2022

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Summary

Today, we’re bringing you another episode of our Arbiters of Truth series on the online information ecosystem. Lawfare senior editor Quinta Jurecic spoke with Mark Bergen, a reporter for Bloomberg News and Businessweek, about his new book, “Like, Comment, Subscribe: Inside YouTube’s Chaotic Rise to World Domination.” YouTube is one of the largest and most influential social media platforms, but Bergen argues that it’s long been “criminally undercovered.” As he tells it, the story of YouTube has a great deal to tell us about the development of the modern attention economy, the promise and pitfalls of the internet, and the struggles of platforms to grapple with their own influence and responsibility. 

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The Obama State Department actually came to YouTube and said,

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like, we want you to take this video down.

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It is directly related to protests, like destabilizing protests around the world.

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YouTube has this, for my understanding, a pretty extensive debate about this.

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I think it speaks to just how the company approached these problems.

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It was like we need to have a blanket policy.

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We're not going to do one off for just certain videos.

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Is this an incitement of violence?

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Or is it just criticism or religion?

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YouTube decided it was criticism or religion.

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