Hey, everybody. Welcome to the dream big podcast. Hope it's been a great week. And every

once in a while, you get somebody on that you've just gotten into some mischief with.

And Mark Patterson is one of those guys just a good egg. Mark, welcome to the podcast.

I just like you a lot. Well, Bob, good egg is one of the nicest things I think you could

say about me. So I love it. I love it. Hey, Mark, tell people that haven't bumped into

you. What it feels like to be you and to be in Washington, DC and a little bit about

what you're up to there. Yeah, we live right on Capitol Hill. And you know a little bit

about that. So we raised we raised our family on Capitol Hill. I remember driving around

Bob and we were looking at a place used to have here. And so we raised our family here.

I passed her a church by day, write books early in the morning. And you know, our national

our local news is national news. And so it's kind of interesting being in a place where

there's just something happening every day. But for us, Bob, like we just the Capitol is

a place to walk our dog to and the national mall is a place for us to picnic. So that's

kind of that's kind of our life here in DC. I've got a gig lead because now I'm thinking

about this attempt we made to do something magnificent back there that just didn't work

at all. What was supposed to be a place of like gathering in pieces is now the death

star. And I think I'm going to get that thing back someday and burn sage or something.

You have a church back there. And you have been leading this. Tell us a little bit about

the church. Yeah, it's a it's a very multicultural church, which we love. And and by the way,

which is across the aisle, there's just in case anybody's been buried under a rock, there's

a little bit of polarization in our in our culture right now. And I think you and I both

believe Bob that there there's common ground and there's common grace and there are things

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