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Woman's Hour

Marisha Wallace on Cabaret, Giving birth in prison, DR Congo, Ethical fashion

Woman's Hour

BBC

Society & Culture, Health & Fitness, Personal Journals

4.22.9K Ratings

🗓️ 7 February 2025

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

The West End star Marisha Wallace joins Anita Rani in the studio. She's the latest actor to play Sally Bowles in Cabaret at The Kit Kat Club in London, alongside Billy Porter who plays Emcee. Marisha talks about the significance of them both playing these roles together and her journey to the top.

The UN has reported that more than 100 female prisoners were raped and then burned alive during a jailbreak in the Congolese city of Goma. The conflict in eastern DR Congo dates back to the 1990s but has rapidly escalated in recent weeks. Since the start of 2025, more than 400,000 people have been forced from their homes, according to the UN's refugee agency. We’re joined by Anne Soy, the BBC’s Deputy Africa Editor & Senior Correspondent based in Nairobi. What's it like giving birth in prison? New play Scenes from Lost Mothers, currently touring universities and prisons, explores the real-life experiences of pregnant women and new mothers in prison. Performed by actors with lived experience of the criminal justice system, or at risk of entering it, it’s based on research from the Lost Mothers Project and explores the impact of separating imprisoned mothers from their newborns. We hear from the project's lead, midwife and associate professor, Dr Laura Abbott, and a mother shares her experience. Emma Hakansson is an ex-model turned ethical fashion campaigner and film director, who founded her own organisation - Collective Fashion Justice. She joins Anita to talk about her new film featuring a community of women in the Amazon who make a sustainable leather alternative which helps keep their environment protected. Presenter: Anita Rani Producer: Sarah Jane Griffiths Editor: Deiniol Buxton

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It was one of the deadliest days in mountaineering history.

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Rock falls, avalanches.

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Huge pieces of ice. All are big enough to kill you.

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He just flew out into Devoid and he was gone.

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How did it all go so wrong?

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And is it really worth risking death to feel alive?

0:22.3

Why would somebody pay to go to a place called the death cell on a vacation?

0:27.4

Extreme.

0:28.3

Peak Danger.

0:29.3

With me, Natalia Melman Petrazella.

0:31.8

Listen to the full series now.

0:33.4

First on BBC Sounds.

0:36.1

BBC Sounds, music radio podcasts.

0:40.4

Hello, I'm Anita Rani, and welcome to Woman's Hour from BBC Radio 4.

0:45.2

Just to say that for rights reasons, the music in the original radio broadcast has been removed for this podcast.

0:51.8

Good morning. We are all welcome at the cabaret today.

0:55.9

I'm delighted to tell you I'll be joined by West End star Marisha Wallace, who's currently

1:00.6

playing Sally Bowles, the lead in cabaret, and she is extraordinary.

1:05.3

Also on the program today, you will hear from a young woman about her experience of giving

1:10.0

birth in prison and being separated from her baby.

1:13.6

And the model who realised fashion did not sit with her ethical beliefs.

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