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2004 is in the rearview mirror now. When you just look back on that in totality and people ask you

hey how 2024 go for you like they were in a freeze chamber and they didn't watch anything last

year how did 2024 sit with you it sad with me i would say along the lines of tons of progress

and got right to a point we had a chance

to really get over the hump and at the end of disappointing ending because we were basically

a drive short of qualifying for the ACC championship game and getting into the playoffs. That being said,

I can't ignore the progress part because Miami's come a long way in these last three years and it's led to another great class. And it propels us into the future. But I would sum it up like that. Do you ever find yourself kind of having to balance? I mean, if you're a driven type A kind of person, the success is great, but you tend to focus on what's not right. You want to get what's not right fixed. But then at the same time, okay, you can do that behind the scenes. But when you're front facing, when you're at a press conference or when you're talking like this, you've got to make sure that you're acknowledging, hey, we went five wins, seven wins, 10 wins. That's, that's linear progression.

That's about as clear cut as it gets. We're winning double-digit games, which we haven't done

around here, at least collectively for a long time. I mean, do you kind of find yourself

having to say, hey, you know, there's still a lot to scrutinize, but it's okay for about two

nanoseconds to, hey, good job. We're better than we were two years ago.

I mean, I approach every single press conference like a team meeting, like almost like a PTA meeting,

right, parents, teachers association meeting because you want clarity and transparency for everyone

in the organization and the family's involved as well and how do you do

that you acknowledge the facts you set goals and plans for the future but you make sure that

everyone is very very aware and understands exactly where we are where we plan to go what's going

to be tolerated what's not going to be tolerated so I think if you use that approach all the time

everybody is hearing the same message and gives you it gives you a best chance to stay within one

culture and not deviate towards like subcultures and narratives. When you're talking to guys

that you're possibly going to get out of the portal, you don't have long extended relationships

with them a lot of times. And so you're

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