Hello and welcome to another episode of IWave, the Gemini in the Jamel. I hope you're well.

I'm very excited for today's episode because it's with someone I really adore.

Hopefully you enjoyed my episode of May Martin just a couple of weeks ago. They are such an

extraordinary person. I got so many lovely messages from all of you. But I love having someone on

who I've known for 10 years or so, especially someone who I met when I was really young.

And my guess this week is one of those people. I met her at the very beginning of my career.

She was also starting hers out and we've just kind of been adjacent one another throughout

and trying to find time to become friends but not being able to manage to find that time.

Kind of until right now, during this episode that you're about to hear. I think after that it was

just sort of it's a done deal. That's it. She's stuck with me now. We're going to be friends.

We love each other. Clearly, there's just so much chemistry there. Her name is Marina Diamandes.

You might know her better as Marina and the diamond. She's one of the most interesting and exciting

pop artists of our generation. Always done her own thing. Always been different. Always stood out,

never played by any of the rules. Just such an intelligent, interesting, inspiring, cool,

quirky and bold young artist. And she's so honest and frank and loves to, loves to do the

unexpected and say the unexpected honest true thing. And she did exactly that on this podcast

and came with no guard up to talk to me about such personal things like eating disorders,

body image, the real feelings she had around her time in this industry. She said things that I've

just never heard anyone say before. Really, really honest, vulnerable things that very few people,

that many people feel, but very few people would ever admit to. And she just did so casually on

this podcast. I love her. We talk about her breaks between albums and when she actually kind of

stepped away from the industry, thinking that it would potentially be forever and what it's been

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