Slow Burn Media and Evergreen Podcast presents Who Killed, a podcast that provides a voice for the voiceless.

One more thing before I let you guys go on this case, and that is an interview with Effley Bailey that was conducted in the 1960s while defending Sam

against the media sensation that was his trial.

And again, it's interesting if you are a member of the press or have worked in a job

related to media and see how much the media can actually impact the trial of a certain

individual. And I mean, we've all seen cases such as O.J., Casey Anthony, Scott Peterson,

you name it. There's been a billion media sensational trials. Jody Arias comes to mind.

And again, these are interesting because the press plays a big part in the public perception of

who these individuals are. So take a listen. It's 15 minutes. And again, it's just interesting.

And it's on the boot reporting from the 1960s.

And, again, the audio is a little wonky just because of the fact that it's old, but it's really interesting and enjoy, please.

Yes, but surely you wouldn't say indefinitely, even if it was a trivial offense, would you?

No, there are some offenses on which you can quickly put a limitation.

Perhaps it's a fine.

I say indefinitely as to anyone who may be a danger to society.

These are the people that you're really complaining about.

Yeah, yeah.

So that ideally then, each person would be treated as an individual

And as an individual he would be assigned to the proper kind of reformatory

In effect is what is involved, isn't it?

Yes, and the proper kind of syllabus

Just breaking up rocks for 10 years doesn't really do much for a person And probably does a great deal of damage. It breaks a lot of rocks, too? Yeah, it breaks a lot of rocks, but you can give a lot more efficient service out of a human being if you're going to put them in chains and break rocks. And this is what most of them do, something not much more productive. Well, that I think is completely understandable,

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