Hey, this is Barry here real quick, just popping in to say that this episode was recorded

before the school shooting in Texas.

And yet the questions that my guest Marion Williamson and I wrestle with here about the spiritual and social maladies facing America

once that go deeper than our addiction to guns. I think remain even more relevant today than on the day we recorded.

Thanks for listening and let us know what you think. I'm Barry Weiss and this is honestly and today a quick question with Mary Ann Williamson

during the 2020 Democratic primaries

candidate Mary and Williamson known by fans of her books like A Return to Love and a politics of Love,

but a total stranger to most Americans suddenly took center stage when she said this.

We have communities, particularly communities of color

and disadvantaged communities all over this country,

who are suffering from environmental injustice.

I assure you, I lived in Gross Point. What happened in Flint would not have happened in

Gross Point. This is part of the dark underbelly of American society. The racism, the

bigotry and the entire conversation that we're having here tonight.

If you think any of this wonkiness is going to deal with this dark psychic force

of the collectivized hatred that this president is bringing up in this country,

then I'm afraid that the Democrats are

going to see some very dark days. We need to say it like it is. It's bigger than

Flint. It's all over this country. It's particularly people. That line

instantly became a meme.

Wow, Marion Williamson, huh?

That was a powerful moment in the debate.

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