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Marianna in Conspiracyland 1: 9. People Like Us

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BBC

Tech News, News, Documentary, Society &Amp; Culture

2.8947 Ratings

🗓️ 30 June 2023

⏱️ 15 minutes

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Summary

Do you know someone who’s fallen down the rabbit hole? During the investigation, Marianna’s inbox has been filled with messages from people sharing their stories about those they know and love who’ve been sucked into conspiracy theories. With the help of social psychologist Karen Douglas, Marianna explores how people find themselves in Conspiracyland, why they stay, and how some managed to escape.

Host: Marianna Spring Producers: Philip Marzouk, Olivia Lace-Evans Producer for BBC Radio 4 podcasts: Nathan Jones Technical Producer: Neva Missirian Senior news editor: Sam Bonham Commissioner: Rhian Roberts

If you’ve been impacted by any of the issues that have come up in this podcast, please visit www.bbc.co.uk/actionline.

And please get in touch with Marianna by emailing at: mariannainconspiracyland@bbc.co.uk.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Savings, credit cards, car finance, reclaiming, insurance, investing, power of attorney, decision,

0:06.2

indecision, analysis, paralysis.

0:09.4

Don't panic.

0:10.4

The Martin Lewis podcast is twice weekly, helping you navigate our complex consumer world.

0:15.2

I'll walk you through a big money saving topic step by step.

0:18.4

Then in question time, you set the agenda and ask whatever's on your

0:22.1

mind. Would you rather be locked in an empty shopping centre with a thousand snakes or just one

0:26.9

gorilla? Within reason. The Martin Lewis podcast, listen on BBC Sounds. BBC Sounds, music, radio,

0:36.3

podcasts. Do you know someone who fell down the rabbit hole?

0:41.1

Maybe they remind you of some of the people I've spoken to from Totnes or Glastonbury,

0:46.2

or they share some of the beliefs promoted by the editor of the Light,

0:50.5

the conspiracy theory newspaper.

0:53.8

Over the course of this investigation,

0:55.9

I've received dozens of messages from people worried about their loved ones.

1:00.5

I've known my close friend for over a decade now.

1:03.2

During the pandemic, I didn't see them.

1:04.5

I've the last four years or so with my brother.

1:06.9

It started with talking about flat earth theory.

1:10.8

At first we met up for a coffee, and I was shocked to hear that she believed that the vapour trails left by aeroplanes were chem trails, that vaccines do cause autism.

1:19.6

Every single topic that we tried to talk about was brought back to being conspiracy or worse yet evil.

1:25.9

It never had any.

1:26.7

It seems there's something different about the conspiracy theory movement that boomed during the pandemic

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