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Marianna in Conspiracyland 1: 7. After An Attempted Coup

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BBC

Tech News, News, Documentary, Society &Amp; Culture

2.8947 Ratings

🗓️ 26 June 2023

⏱️ 15 minutes

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Summary

What can the UK learn from Germany? In Berlin, BBC disinformation and social media correspondent Marianna Spring meets a whistleblower who stopped writing for a conspiracy theory newspaper in his country because he feared it was becoming more radical. Marianna uncovers more about the connections between the German paper and a failed coup attempt, and unpicks what it can tell us about our own conspiracy theory movement in the UK.

Host: Marianna Spring Producers: Philip Marzouk, Olivia Lace-Evans Producer for BBC Radio 4 podcasts: Nathan Jones Technical Producers: Graham Puddifoot, Tom Brignell, Neva Missirian Senior news editor: Sam Bonham Commissioner: Rhian Roberts

New episodes released every few days. If you're in the UK, listen to the whole series first on BBC Sounds bbc.in/42x5sO5

And please get in touch with Marianna by emailing at: mariannainconspiracyland@bbc.co.uk.

Transcript

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0:00.0

An early start here.

0:02.7

It's time to kick off.

0:04.0

Your day. Morning!

0:05.8

What a line-up.

0:07.2

Oh, thanks very much.

0:08.2

We do get some great guests on the show.

0:10.1

The crowd is loving this.

0:12.2

Thanks, guys. Thank you. Too kind.

0:14.1

From morning chaos to match day commentary.

0:17.6

And everything in between.

0:19.0

BBC Sounds.

0:20.2

Packed with personality

0:21.6

BBC Sounds music radio podcasts

0:27.6

you cannot ask the question is it okay to get a debt penalty for those who made this COVID measures

0:34.6

what are you doing I cannot give my name for that newspaper anymore.

0:41.3

This is Marcus. He's talking about a conspiracy theory newspaper in Berlin,

0:48.3

one that we know the light paper in the UK is in contact with.

0:53.3

Marcus used to be a columnist at the German paper in the UK is in contact with.

0:58.7

Marcus used to be a columnist at the German paper called Democratic Resistance.

1:04.7

Now he's contacted me because he's worried about the direction, the paper and its editor are taking.

1:06.9

Do you think he is an extremist?

1:08.6

His wording is at the moment the wording of an extremist, yes.

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