Maria Semple knows all the dirty little secrets of midlife!
The Shift with Sam Baker
Sam Baker Ltd
4.8 • 525 Ratings
🗓️ 26 May 2026
⏱️ ? minutes
Summary
My guest this week is Maria Semple the author of one of my favourite books of all time, Where’d you go bernadette,.
Once encountered, Bernadette Fox is never forgotten. I wasn’t alone, Bernadette was translated into 40 languages, sold over 200k copies in the UK alone, was shortlisted for the Women’s Prize and was made into a movie starring Cate Blanchett.
Maria, who was previously a TV writer for Saturday Night Live and Arrested Development, amongst others, has written two other novels, and is now back with a fourth, Go Gentle. Already an Oprah Bookclub pick, it’s A story of midlife transformation, mothers, daughters, art theft, stoicism and Upper West side covens! Yes, you heard that right.
Like all her books, Go Gentle is stuffed full of home truths and big ideas, and it’s riotously snortingly funny.
I met Maria on a flying visit to the UK at her publisher’s office overlooking the thames to talk about midlife’s dirty little secret, the freedom she found post-divorce, the joy of not having to ask permission and doing a geographical. We also discussed why midlife is a time of metabolisation (is that a word?) How stoicism kept her sane when her coping mechanisms packed up and why her favourite company is other women.
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