Maria Pinto: Misbehaving toward our fungal futures
Green Dreamer: Seeding change towards collective healing, sustainability, regeneration
Kaméa Chayne
4.8 • 694 Ratings
🗓️ 5 May 2026
⏱️ 45 minutes
🧾️ Download transcript
Summary
"There is an uncanniness, a way in which [fungi] were not behaving perfectly, in which it's hard to study them in a petri dish… They upset that wish that everything would fall into binaries and categories that have made sense." – Maria Pinto
This episode features Maria Pinto, an author and educator who teaches for the literary nonprofit GrubStreet. Her book of lyric essays about mushrooms, Fearless, Sleepless, Deathless: What Fungi Taught Me about Nourishment, Poison, Ecology, Hidden Histories, Zombies, and Black Survival, was published by Great Circle Books at UNC Press.
We invite you to…
- tune in and subscribe to Green Dreamer via any podcast app;
- tap into our bonus extended and video version of this conversation on Patreon here;
- and read highlights from these conversations via Kaméa’s newsletter here.
Episode artwork: Paul Lewin
Song features: “If You Want To, You Will” by Lemon Myrtle
Transcript
Click on a timestamp to play from that location
| 0:00.0 | Hey, hey, it's your host, Kamea. I've been feeling kind of perpetually overwhelmed by the state of the world, |
| 0:07.4 | and I'm really realizing again how important it is to have a daily re-centering practice for myself. |
| 0:14.6 | So I've been really working on that, and I'm not sure how this may be finding you, |
| 0:19.3 | but I want to use this maybe as a gentle reminder |
| 0:22.2 | for you as well to also nurture a ritual or practice whatever that may look like that feels |
| 0:29.0 | the most grounding to you. And also, if you happen to be interested in working on this with me |
| 0:35.6 | and with us, I want to invite you to check out Alchemize, |
| 0:39.1 | Green Dreamers 12-week audio-based program of daily imagination and creative practices, inspired |
| 0:46.6 | by a lot of our show's inquiries, and led by a variety of our past guests, collaborators, and myself. |
| 0:54.0 | My inspiration to conceive this offering really came from this question, |
| 0:58.2 | what could it be like to partake in practices of mindfulness that aren't just about this |
| 1:03.1 | re-centering of us as individuals, but like practices of earthfulness. |
| 1:08.0 | So like moving from mindfulness to earthfulness that reroute our imagination |
| 1:13.6 | and embodiment in our deeper and broader webs of relations. This is the question that undergirds |
| 1:20.7 | the program as an invitation to move beyond engaging a lot of the topics that we talk about |
| 1:26.1 | on the show intellectually, but into |
| 1:28.3 | more embodied, sensorial, participatory, and creative ways. So yeah, Alchemize is now open for |
| 1:36.2 | enrollment again, and if this speaks to you, I welcome you to learn more at greendreamer.com slash alchemize. |
| 1:46.4 | Vivisection is not something that works very well when it comes to studying kingdom |
| 1:53.5 | of life that does so much of its work through interconnectivity. You can't grab a core sample |
| 2:00.6 | of soil, study the fungi, and say, |
| 2:03.9 | I know exactly what's going on here because you've just taken it out of the work that it's doing. |
... |
Please login to see the full transcript.
Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Kaméa Chayne, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.
Generated transcripts are the property of Kaméa Chayne and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.
Copyright © Tapesearch 2026.

