Hi, I'm Ellen Pompeo, and this is Tell Me.

Today, my guest is Maria Kanakova.

She wrote a book called The Biggest Bluff,

How I Learned to Pay Attention, Master Myself, and Win.

So Maria set about on a quest to learn how to play poker.

So she could learn about decision-making and choices and things like that.

I think she's really smart. It's a great book. I'm excited to speak to her.

So I hope you all enjoy our conversation.

Maria Kanakova, thank you so much for being here.

Thank you so much for having me on.

I'm really excited to talk to you.

I'm obsessed with this book, The Biggest Bluff.

It's so good. And congratulations. It seems like a lot of fun.

Thank you.

Except for the ending, which I'm not going to give away.

Everyone has to get the book and read it, because it's juicy.

There's some drama at the end.

We actually have something in common.

So you grew up outside of Boston,

Also, I did not know that you're from outside of Boston.

Yeah, I grew up in Acton, Massachusetts,

which is one of the Northwest suburbs of Boston.

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