Species.

Species.

Unite.

It was just this love I developed of life, just all life, and how much life can be a joy to witness and experience

if we're not severing ourselves or severing other lives from our own. And then you start to

see all the connectedness. And it's like a drug.

Yeah. connectedness and it's like a drug. Hi, I'm Elizabeth Novogratz.

This is Species Unite.

What if healing wasn't about fixing yourself, but about remembering what it means to be alive.

This conversation is with writer, artist, speaker, teacher, and deep feeler, Marry Andrew, about her new book, How to Be a Living Thing, an exploration on animals, embodiment, and the wild,

wondrous mess of being human. Through stories of rats and oysters, cardinals, and bears,

Marie explores the quiet wisdom of creatures who live without apology, who don't shrink

themselves to be loved,

who remind us what it is to be curious, connected, and enough. I'm so glad you're here. This is so exciting. I just read your book, How to Be a Living

Thing, and I can't tell you how much I love it. I love it. Thank you so much. And because, like I was saying to you a minute ago, we do go into the dark a lot, not just

podcast-wise, but like in our news, in our campaigns, in the sense of we look at a lot of bad

stuff.

And you talk about so many animals in this book and talk about how humans treat them, which is usually not great.

Yeah.

But you don't go into the dark.

You stay really light and beautiful and joyful and it's awesome.

Thank you for saying that.

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