Margot Kaminski on Regulating AI Risks
The Lawfare Podcast
The Lawfare Institute
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🗓️ 20 April 2023
⏱️ 41 minutes
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Summary
In the last few months we've seen an explosion of new AI products, especially those built around large language models. And in response, we've also heard calls for far more aggressive government regulation. But what does it mean to regulate AI?
Margot Kaminski is an Associate Professor of Law at University of Colorado Law School. She's just published a paper for Laware's ongoing Digital Social Contract research paper series, in which she argues that the emerging law of artificial intelligence is converging around risk regulation. Alan Rozenshtein, Associate Professor of Law at the University of Minnesota and Senior Editor at Lawfare, spoke with Margot about what risk regulation means in the AI context and why she thinks that it has some serious drawbacks.
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| 0:29.0 | When you transplant law, you bring stuff with it. |
| 0:37.0 | And if you look to environmental law and you say, |
| 0:39.0 | this looks enough like the problems that we're seeing with the use of AI systems, |
| 0:43.0 | we can analogize the problems from AI systems to pollution, |
| 0:47.0 | which a number of authors have done. |
| 0:49.0 | And you say, okay, well, then the solution should be, |
| 0:51.0 | let's bring an environmental regulation. |
| 0:53.0 | My point is you should also look to criticisms of environmental regulation |
| 0:57.0 | of toxic chemical regulation, of other places where this sort of risk regulation has been used |
| 1:03.0 | to try to figure out what goes wrong when people use it. |
| 1:07.0 | So this idea of policy baggage is that there are things risk regulation is actually pretty bad at doing. |
| 1:13.0 | And I happen to think that when you take what risk regulation is bad at doing, |
| 1:18.0 | and you cross it with the type of harms that AI regulation is trying to address, |
| 1:23.0 | which are often deontological for right-space harms, |
| 1:27.0 | then it raises some pretty significant concerns about whether this is in fact the right tool or really I should flag |
| 1:33.0 | is in fact the right tool by itself. |
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