Welcome back to Gabbing with Gibb.

I'm your host, Gips and Johns, and today on the show, we are shifting our attention

to the fairly under-heralded and under-appreciated Ladies of London reboot Ladies

of London New Rain.

It's technically the fourth season of Ladies of London, but it's a totally new cast from the first three seasons that aired 10 years ago. We're going to do an interview with Margot Stilly today. She is one of the people on the cast of the reboot. And Margo is one of the Americans on the cast. She's definitely been one of the more divisive people on the cast so far, but I feel like she's also been

a big source of the drama this season. So like everyone should be thankful for her being there

between like her tiffs with Kimmy and Mark and how those very much complicate her close friendship

with Martha. I think it's been very compelling to watch and it's been a big focus of the second

half of this fantastic first season of New Rain.

So I enjoy getting some time with Margot to touch down on some of the big plot points from

this season so far, as well as hearing about some of the background behind why she joined the show.

You'll hear this at the top of our chat, but at the Ladies of London premiere event that

Bravo hosted earlier this year in New York City with the full cast,

Margot had mentioned in a clip that I put up on the Gabbing with the Instagram page that she knew Whitney from Southern Charm,

and he had initially wanted to cast her on that show before it ever started.

So I was interested to hear her thoughts on reality TV as a whole, joining it,

especially considering that she wants to also kind of kickstart her acting career again.

So it was interesting to hear her thoughts on that. Obviously, we touched down on the Dara

madam of it all, and she had some good updated tea on that. And I just appreciated Margot's candor.

And I think that you all will too.

And again, I've said it before. But like if you weren't watching Ladies of London, I feel like

it is kind of getting overshadowed by so much else happening on Bravo right now. I mean, between

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