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They say it's a thin line between love and hate, but we're working every day to

thicken that line, or at least to make it a double or triple line.

But now here's your line jumping host, Eric Mattaxas.

Hey there, folks.

This is one of those shows.

One of those shows that you don't hear on other programs because I have the joy and the freedom to talk to people that you're just not going to hear on other programs, at least as far as I can tell.

One of those people at the top of the list is Margarita Mooney, now Margarita Mooney-Swarz, recently Mary.

Congratulations.

Thank you.

Who has been on the program before?

Margarita, let me just tell people, you're an associate professor of practical

theology at Princeton Theological Seminary. That says it all, in a nutshell. You're the founder

of the Scala Foundation. We've discussed that in the past. You have a new book out.

I want to talk to you about the book.

And I just love this.

It's called The Wounds of Beauty, Seven Dialogues on Art and Education.

This is, you know, you can talk about this yourself, but I will say that, you know, a lot of times I think people are sick, really sick of kind of breaking news, what's going on right this minute, this minute, this minute, we need to step back and we do that not infrequently on this program to talk about the big questions to help us to process life

and how we deal with the moment, so to speak.

And that's one of the reasons I was excited to get you in here in the studio to talk about the book,

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