Hello and welcome to another episode of iWay with Jermina Jamil.

Merry fucking Christmas! If you care at all, I'm maintaining, I still do not,

but I wanted to bring you this episode today with Margaret Cho, who I think is so funny and so smart,

and she's such an icon within the comedy world and also just such a role model for Asian Americans,

you know, who was so, who was still underrepresented in media, but she was really like one of the first

staple talents on television and has continued to be for decades now. In this episode we go,

we really go there. I mean there's nowhere that this woman was not willing to go with me. It was

the shortest pre-interview I've ever had because she was just like, fuck it, I'm an open book,

and I want to give you a trigger warning here because we do talk about sexual abuse,

especially in children and the sexualization of young girls, so if that's something that you are

not ready to hear on Christmas Day, this up, you know, supposedly upbeat, warm family day,

then that's okay, maybe just save this for day after tomorrow or to never listen to ever.

She's just gone on to have one of these really unpredictable and just fascinating trajectories

in such an odd industry and she talks to me about trying to navigate that as an Asian woman,

who was like both discriminated against and yet fetishized all at the same time. She talks a lot

about struggling with eating disorders, again, something that we predominantly associate with,

normally white women, but it was really interesting to hear the impact. It's always interesting

for me to hear the impact of body image on people who are from different backgrounds and different

minorities and ethnicities and she really talks about that and how she's kind of overcome decades

and decades of that self-hatred and that kind of struggle. And I think given Christmas being a time

where a lot of people are, you know, they're anxious about food or they're being body-shamed by

family or they're being doubled down on right now by all the fasting and dieting apps. You

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