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Talk to me about, you know, when I'm talking to you and I'm talking to Mark and sometimes I'll hear a little bit above, how close are the two?

And because sometimes they're distinctly separate, sometimes they meld together.

I really believe, I really believe in all wrestling, Steve, that I really believe with all

my heart, my opinion is all wrestlers are basically an exaggerated version of the real self.

I really believe that. I believe that Rick Flair is an exaggerated version of his real self on TV.

I believe that Mark Bagwell, you know, Bob Bagwell is an exaggerated version of Mark Bagwell.

And I believe that, you know, that's most of us. I really believe that. And whether that's right or wrong, I can't say.

That's my opinion.

But I can tell you, for my personal self, Mark Bagwell is, the above Bagwell character,

is an exaggerated version of Mark.

I would concur with that.

But let me talk to you about something, you know, some neck injuries. You know, obviously we have different neck injuries, but we have neck issues nonetheless. But as we speak right now, how are you feeling on a physical standpoint? Because I know you do need a shoulder surgery. What's going on with the shoulder? Well, the shoulder's shot, and we're really trying to be real careful with that because it's just, you know, I can say once the shoulder goes down, that's going to be, you know, 12, you know, 12 to, you know, shoot, three to six months out.

What do you need done with it?

Believe it or not, it's going to be a total shoulder replacement. It's going to be the, it's going to be the full deal. What did you do to it? Dude, I had a rotator cuff rebuild about three years ago. It was eight screws, two staples to relocate my biceps tendon. And believe it or not, you know, as you're about to find out, or as you already know, because of your doctor's visits, the shoulder is a very complex joint. It's a ball joint.

So, man, I came back from mine 100%. What's to deal with the total shoulder replacement? Well, that's what I thought, too, Steve. I was really, my first doctor I went to, he was like, hey, man, we make three little orthoscopic holes, and we go in there and fix it. Well, the more I didn't like my doctor, I started feeling some bad vibes with my doctor.

Something was up. holes and we go in there and fix it. Well, the more I didn't like my doctor, I started feeling some, some bad vibes with my

doctor, something was up.

And I just didn't feel comfortable.

Bedside manners, whatever you want to call it, vibe, something I didn't feel.

So I started searching around a little bit and come across a guy that, of course, everybody

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