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Marco Rubio Got Triggered by a Font

Bulwark Takes

The Bulwark

News, Politics, Society & Culture, News Commentary

4.71.2K Ratings

🗓️ 12 December 2025

⏱️ 15 minutes

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Summary

JVL and Hannah Yoest break down the Department of State’s sudden font switch: goodbye ‘woke’ Calibri, hello Times New Roman. Why does this matter? Because apparently even fonts are political now, and Marco Rubio thinks professionalism starts with a serif.

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0:00.0

Hello everyone, I am JVL here with my bulwark colleague, Hannah Yost, and you are here for

0:06.4

bulwark font talk.

0:09.9

Graphic Design Nerds of the World Unite because yesterday, Marco Rubio announced that the

0:16.5

Department of State is making a bold change. They are done with the Calibri font, and they're going

0:25.2

pure Times New Roman, and design nerds all across the country are now fighting about this.

0:31.9

Hannah, let's start with a baseline take here. Where are you on Calibri versus Times New Roman?

0:41.7

Ben, our other senior editor who's now back, both agree that this is like the classic case of the Trump administration having the wrong process, but the right outcome.

0:54.2

So, yeah, we should kill Calibri, absolutely.

0:58.0

But it has a reputation of being soft and modern.

1:01.4

It does not read professional.

1:04.2

It reads as kid book should not be set in a kind of more juvenile looking typeface.

1:12.0

It should be in something sophisticated like Times New Roman,

1:15.0

something with a seraph that, you know, conveys professionalism and so on and so forth.

1:20.6

So Anthony Blinken made this change of going from Times New Roman to Calibri.

1:29.8

It was, I don't know if this is the only reason,

1:33.4

but I think one of the reasons given was that it came out of the Office of Diversity and Inclusion,

1:39.8

which sounds like black people,

1:41.6

but in this case really meant people who had eye trouble and like dyslexia.

1:47.1

This is, again, unclear if the Republicans just think by saying woke,

1:51.9

everybody assumes that means brown people.

1:53.9

This was really just talking about people with eyesight problems.

1:56.4

Before Blinken had made his change, for 20 years, you go back before that, they had been using Courier New.

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