This evening the Paracast, with your host, Jane Steinberg and David Beedgling.

This evening on the Paracast, we're going to have

not one guest, but two guests,

which is going to make the show twice as good.

Or not, this evening we're going to be talking with

Frank Longo and Peter Gatilla,

two people who have been involved with a really

fascinating case that when I first heard about it,

I know that I was skeptical about until I watched the documentary that Frank made about this really

rather amazing woman and her very intense experiences, including hard photographic evidence,

which especially makes it interesting to the paracast audience.

Frank, how did you first find out about Dorothy and the footage that she had been shooting

over quite a number of years?

I heard an interview of Peter Gutila discussing the case on coast to coast one evening,

and over the years I've heard i've heard

many many guests and uh you kind of get a sense after a while who's kind of pulling your leg or

you know they're not really the real deal but there was something about peter that uh there was such a

sincerity and and in his case with case with Dorothy and discussing her incredible story

that I was really compelled to contact him to find out a little bit more about it and see

if he could put me in touch with the family.

I'd see that there was a possibility to maybe do a documentary about her in her life.

Because I just, you know, the more I thought about it, I hadn't really,

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