Hello and welcome to the TIFO football podcast.

I'm Alex Stewart and I'm joined this week by John McKenzie.

Hello, John.

Hello, how are you doing?

I'm very well, thank you.

First to say, our normal host Joe is not here this week.

He is on holiday.

So you'll have to bear with me because I've never done this before, but fortunately,

John has an experienced podcast hand.

In fact, the roles have been reversed here a few times, have they not?

Yeah, this is the first time I've ever been interviewed by you for a podcast, so there you go.

Well, we shall try and keep it smooth and flowing.

John is a freelance writer on football for, among others, The Economist, the Ipaper

and Fan-sided.

He's also writing a book about the subject of today's podcast, which is Marcella Bielsa and

Leeds, and keeps us up to date with that book and its progress via a very, very entertaining

email out called Obielsa Ovida.

I hope I've pronounced that correctly.

I think so, yeah.

I think that's so good.

So let's kind of get cracking with Beelzer and Leeds.

Leeds United is obviously a historically a big club. They've won the

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