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Thank you. dot com backslash cyberwire. My name is Marcel Lee and I'm a senior security researcher at SecureWorks.

I wanted to do a lot of different things in my life and have done quite a few of them.

I had one year of double E in college and that definitely wasn't for me.

So at the time, like, I had never even considered like a career in computers

because it just wasn't something that I grew up with at all

and didn't have any concept, you know, of what a career in that field would look like.

So, yeah, but here I en nap.

I had relative pass away and I was in charge of managing their estate and it was a bit complicated because there was like a household to, you know, empty and a house to sell and so on and so forth.

And but because I was getting some money from that, I was able to like basically quit my

full-time gig, which was managing like capital projects for a municipality, and focus on taking

care of the estate and then getting into the cyber thing because I had a little bit of funds and flexibility.

The other thing that helped was I actually was part of a grant program.

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