Marc Thiessen on ICE and Border Strategy
Brian Kilmeade Show
FOX News Podcasts
4.1 • 2K Ratings
🗓️ 12 February 2026
⏱️ 15 minutes
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| 0:28.4 | He is a fellow at the AEI and he's a Fox News contributor. |
| 0:32.9 | You also see him at the big weekend show a lot. |
| 0:35.2 | Mark, welcome back. |
| 0:36.7 | Your thoughts, number one, about a possible |
| 0:39.8 | DHS shutdown. I mean, and so because of that, they will stop the Code L going to the Munich |
| 0:45.8 | Security Conference. Maybe the Senate holds people here all over an appropriations bill that was |
| 0:51.7 | already agreed upon. Why can't Democrats take the win? |
| 0:55.3 | They've already got a lot of concessions. |
| 0:58.8 | Yeah, I don't understand it. |
| 1:00.3 | And it's also really dumb strategy. |
| 1:02.2 | So what they did was their leverage over Donald Trump? |
| 1:06.1 | Their leverage was that they were going to shut down the government, |
| 1:08.4 | and then that would shave a couple of points off of GDP growth for the economy, which would hurt him in the midterm elections. |
| 1:15.2 | And so if they had shut down the entire government, that would be a problem for Donald Trump. |
| 1:19.1 | But then they let all the other appropriations bills go through except for DHS funding, |
| 1:24.7 | which means that that leverage is gone. And're, and also, they're not even |
| 1:29.9 | taking ice hostage, which is their problem, because ICE funding has been funded through |
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