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I'm John Lovett. Today on the show, I signed down with Mark

Marin to talk about the end of his podcast, to talk about his comedy special, talk about politics,

Trump, Theo Vaughan, Jerry Seinfeld, Bill Marr, I think Janine Garofalo came up very briefly.

We covered a lot of ground about the right, the left,

life and death. It was a great conversation. Producer Austin said it was a funny conversation

and one of the darkest conversations we've had. And you'll decide how right that is. But it was

really great. And here it is. Hi. Thanks for being here. You're welcome. Nice to be here. I've admired your work from afar, my friend. Oh, that's so nice to hear. We all, yeah, what about up close? Well, I'm going to see how that goes. Okay. Okay. Okay. When we, you were on Lovederee, even in 2017, I went back and listened to it. And my takeaway had nothing to do with you.

You were there, but I was mostly listening to how I sounded. Sure. And it was one of the first shows

we did. Yeah. And it was one of the first times I've been doing a show on a stage and I'm still

getting the hang of it. And I remember when you came on, I really felt you not annoyed at me, but like,

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