Hi everyone and thank you for tuning in to the 210th episode of Awards Chatter,

the Hollywood Reporters Awards Podcast. to the who was a central figure in the early days of the alternative comedy movement.

He's also a podcast host who show, WTF, with guests ranging from Robin Williams to Barack Obama,

helped to popularize the podcast as much as anything, most recently he's made a name for himself as a character

with his work on the first season of Netflix's comedy series glow garnering him critics choice

and SAG Award nominations with an Emmy nomination

potentially to follow. The one and only Mark Merrin. But first I was joined

at the offices of the Hollywood reporter by Leslie Goldberg, our West Coast television editor and the primary

force behind the blog The Live Feed, who joined me to talk about her view of the TV landscape

at the outset of this Emmy season. Leslie, thank you for joining us.

Thanks for having me.

You regularly cover a lot of shows on the broadcast Big Four Network, CBS, NBC, ABC Fox,

at a time now when their audiences are still the largest generally by far right

most of the time okay a lot of them are there but increasingly undermined by cable and streaming competition.

And I just wonder what you, if it's even a fair fight in your mind, if it makes sense that

they are grouped together at something like the Emmys, when these guys have to produce so many more

episodes they have to work within the confines of standards and practices that

places like HBO and Netflix do not are we talking about apples and oranges here and I mean when you when you talk about a broadcast show not only do they have standards and practices

I mean basically broadcast is an ad driven model so when you're looking at it at a show like

this is us as good as and as great as that can be. I mean get your Kleenex boxes

ready but that's produced on a schedule and it's produced to lure advertisers

and to be to be big and to be broad and a Netflix show they can take however long they want to do it.

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