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Impolitic with John Heilemann

Marc Elias: Start the Steal

Impolitic with John Heilemann

Audacy | Puck

News, Politics

4.84.5K Ratings

🗓️ 16 February 2026

⏱️ 70 minutes

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Summary

John welcomes back Democratic election lawyer Marc Elias to discuss Donald Trump’s recent slew of suggestions about changing the way elections are run in the U.S.—and his apparent plans to mess with the November midterms. Elias also analyzes Attorney General Pam Bondi’s cringeworthy performance last week before the House Judiciary Committee, the Justice Department’s failure to secure indictments (at Trump’s behest) of the half-dozen congresspeople who released a video reminding soldiers that they had no obligation to follow illegal orders, and the Republican push to enact Voter ID. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Aloha and namaste, everyone, and welcome to Imic with John Heilman, a puck and Odyssey Joint,

0:42.6

featuring lively, in-depth conversations with the people who cruise the quarters of power in America,

0:47.2

sculpting and shaping the ebb and flow of our politics and culture.

0:51.6

In the six weeks since the new year began, Donald Trump has suggested on five

0:58.0

separate occasions that the midterm elections in November not be carried out as they would

1:03.1

be carried out under anything remotely resembling normal circumstances, which, of course,

1:08.8

are definitionally not the circumstances in which the United States

1:12.5

of America is currently operating. On the first two occasions, in the first two weeks of January,

1:18.4

Trump teased the notion of calling off the midterms entirely, the first time floating the idea

1:23.5

and in the next breath denying that he was floating it. Yeah, we have to even run against these people.

1:30.0

Now, I won't say cancel the election.

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