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new-ish friend, Mark Elias of Democracy Docket. I'm sure you know him. We should be monitoring

his work. He's a democratic campaign lawyer du jour. Who now is leading the fight in a lot of

courtrooms against Trump's attack on democracy. I want to grab him

because I am, I'm pretty alarmed by the statement that Trump put out on truth social, the

bleat he put out, about mail-in ballots. I want to read that for everybody. But first, Mark,

I guess I'm wondering, could you give us kind of an alarm scale for you on what you're seeing out of the White House today on mail-in ballots?

Look, I think it's very alarming.

I think, you know, anytime the President of the United States says that he is going to shut down the predominant method of voting in, you know, a quarter of the states, a method of voting that Democrats disproportionately rely on

versus Republicans, and to boot is also going to attack unspecified voting equipment.

We're not sure what voting equipment is that he's attacking, but he's going to attack that.

It is something we have to take both literally and seriously.

Yeah.

So here's the statement.

Bekinans, I'm going to lead a movement to get rid of mail-in ballots and also while

we're at it, highly inaccurate, very expensive and seriously controversial voting machines,

which cost 10 times more than accurate and sophisticated watermark paper, which is faster

and leaves no doubt.

Okay, so we'll say that for a second.

But we move forward.

He goes on to talk about how he has an executive order plan.

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