Hello and welcome to the Bullwark podcast. I'm your host Tim Miller coming at you from my parents' basement again. So sorry for the YouTube viewers about whatever you want to call this background and all the glare. I'm doing my best. I also learned at dinner last night from my cousin that he hasn't listened to one second of this podcast or any politics podcast since November 7th. And I got to tell you, he seems pretty relaxed. And so I appreciate all of you for sticking around with me. And I appreciate our guest today. Welcomeing, I think, for the first time of the board podcast, partner at Elias Law Group and founder of Democracy Docket, a pro-democracy news outlet. He specializes in voting rights and redistricting. It's Mark Elias. How you doing, man? Good. How are you?

This is first, right? Were you on Charlie back in the olden days?

No, this is the first. And I have a lot of pressure on me to like make this work so you'll have me back.

Okay. I think it'll be good. I wanted to start with redistricting, but then just before you popped on, I was perusing

the X platform and saw this from Glenn Beck. I don't know if you've seen this. Glenn Beck says

that Mark Alliance has stopped posting on X. John Kerry private his account and Peter

struck deleted his account. Is the deep state panicking.

So I just, Glenn Beck is worried that you're panicking. So I guess my question for you is,

are you the deep state and are you panicking? Okay, first of all, do I look panicked?

So I got off of X. You know, I don't know about you.

I could live happily without social media.

Like, I am not someone who is like, my God, there is another platform.

Please, God, let me figure out a way to scroll some more.

I got on Twitter way back in the day because there were all these bloggers. Remember the bloggers?

Of course. When I found out that Twitter was called the Telfake micro blog and was like 180 characters, I was like, okay, this is like some kind of joke. So I'm like, okay, I'm going to do that. Like, well, you guys blog, I'm going to micro blog. And it was like really a useful way to communicate. And then the site went to shit.

And so like I did my little mandatory purgatory on post, if you remember them.

The little tour on Mastodon that was like a couple of weeks.

Now I'm on blue sky, kind of, you know, doing what I do there.

But I got off of Twitter because like at the end of the year, just because, like, it was so damn, like, toxic. Like, I could post something like, I'm going to be on with Tim Miller. And it's like, oh, a gay and a kike. You know what mean? Like, it was, like, it was just, it was. You're grooming. Yeah, right? It was like one, it was like one antisemitic slur at me after another. And like, you know, and so, so I'm sorry, Glenn, but this is actually not news. This happened some time ago. You are kind of a target for these guys. I don't know. I was at one point. There's something, I don't know what it is. Maybe they feel like since Trump got elected again, like the fight with the never-trumper's is not exciting to them anymore.

It's not that I don't have trolls, I do.

But I feel like the venom that is targeted for you is more intense these days.

Do you need a security guard?

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