Hi, I'm Jason Buck from the Mutiny Fund and it's my distinct pleasure to sit down with

legendary trader Mark Cajotis. Now, I thought they were originally going to get us together. So,

Mark and I could talk about heirloom chicken breeds, molting season and rotational grazing

with your chicken farm. But unfortunately, a lot's gone on in the last week and we have a lot

to talk about and break down and we're going to talk from, you know, topically what's going on

and we want to deep dive into kind of the nuance of what's been going on in the markets with this

Wall Street back, GameStop, Robin Hood and everything's been going on in the markets.

But I want to start maybe with Mark a little bit about your career as a short seller and maybe part

of that as you can delineate what's the difference between an actual short seller and a long short

hedge fund. Well, first of all, thanks for having me. I don't want to get too concentrated people

think that I'm a promoter or this and the other but this is a complex, complex issue and I think

it's very important. Everyone's entitled to their opinion but I think it's important to get the facts

right. So, to your point, I've been at this since 1982. I go after bad people, bad companies,

frauds, criminals, things like that and there are very, very, very few people left on the planet

who do this and not only does it serve a purpose, let's use my friend Jim Carothers as an example. He

single-handedly exposed incess which is that fentanyl selling drug company where the main guys

are going to go to prison which killed tens of thousands of people and if not for his work,

others would not have never picked it up and the company could still be doing what they're doing.

I don't know how much Carothers in his fund made or lost on incess but he served society a

greater good. The same thing with the people who exposed the money laundering fraud of wirecard.

My friend Frazier Perry ended up in someone's trunk. I mean, he's lucky they didn't kill him

and whether it's me exposing AI farm over the years or others exposing valiant or concordia

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