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Please check it out at UnwantedBook.com. Good afternoon, Michael Malice. Here, let that be your welcome for the next hour. Guys, we have a very special return in guess Mark Andreessen, Internet OG. You worked on mosaic. You worked on Netscape. You were here since the very beginning. We just spent 15 minutes trying to get this connection working and the answer was rebooting your computer, which takes me back to my tech support days. No, we have this running joke.

We have this running joke.

We have all these AI super geniuses come in the office and they've all got, you know, they've got everything all figured out and they literally spent 20 minutes. They can't get to laptop to connect to the projector. It's good. And now I'm one of them. So we're gonna talk a lot about AI because I've a lot of opinions not a lot of information, which is a dangerous place to be.

And that's I want to talk to you.

Mark, you have a book out with passage press called the

Techno Optimus manifesto.

I a lot about AI because I've a lot of opinions and not a lot of information, which is a dangerous place to be.

And that's what I want to talk to you.

Mark, you have a book out with passage press called The Techno Optimus Manifesto.

I have my copy.

You can get a note.

It's really cool because it's got this metal cover.

And I like you, share an enormous sense of optimism about technology.

Although I'm sure you agree with me and with that you love Thomas Sol. And I think Thomas Sol's greatest quote is there's no solutions, there's only trade-offs. And people think that if something has a problem with it, therefore it's a no-go as opposed to the reality, which is everything has a cost. Everything has a downside in what you want, the upsides that way, the downsides. But before we get started, Mr. Billionaire, I was reading on your Wikipedia that you're a big fan of Marinette. Oh yeah. Uh-huh. Yes. I am. I mean, you know, with the appropriate caveats. Well, yeah, of course. We'll check this out. Signed copy. Amazing. How do you like that? Amazing. And I've framed manifesto in my living room upstairs. So let's get, before we get to talking about

the future of AI and you being such an internet vision area, I'm really excited to hear your point of view. Can you tell people what AI is? Because I feel like there's so much talking past each other on this issue about what it really is and what people think it is, and then I'll give you the floor. Yeah, well, so look, it was struck by saying, look, humanity's always been justifiably obsessed with her selves, right?

And so, and then as a saying, look, humanity's always been, you know,

justifiably obsessed with with ourselves, right? And so, and then as a consequence for obsessed with with things that seem like they might be like us, you know, there's this, you know, concept and psychology called anthropomorphizing, right? Where you basically look at something that's not human, but you kind of want to read, you know, humanity into it. And you know, we let me any look, we do that with like, you know, we do that with cats dogs.

And we do that with Bambi.

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