We just have this fundamental view.

The technology is like on balance

an enormously powerful force in the world.

And the big problem with the world

is that there's not enough technology,

there's not enough information, there's not enough intelligence. And we have this opportunity. We have these special sets of technologies that let us fundamentally improve things. Anybody can build a product, start a company, even trying to be a VC. These are all completely open fields. And it's just shocking to me how few people actually give it a shot.

And the fate of the world over the next 1,500 years

is writing on the people who actually want to give it a show. You're much more likely to build something important in the 21st century. If you start with the founder and train them on management, then you are to start with the manager and try to train them on being a founder, creating new things. Take whatever amazing new thing you have and

just put it in a room with like normal people and let them pray to use it. And you just like learn

so much about how much of a bubble that you're in. Mark Andresen recently joined David

Senra on the founder's podcast for a conversation about entrepreneurship, history, and what drives

the world's most ambitious builders.

In this conversation with David, he reflects on patterns he's seen across great founders,

why many of them focus relentlessly on building rather than introspection, and how technology

and entrepreneurship continue to shape the future. Here's Mark Andresen on Founders.

I wasn't expecting to start here.

I want to talk about why you were consuming so much caffeine that you noticed that your heart was skipping a beat.

I love caffeine.

So for a very long time, I always said that's the ultimate day.

Like the perfect day was 12 hours of caffeine followed by four hours of alcohol. Like, that's just like the ultimate. I did cut out, or at least for now, I've cut out the four hours of alcohol. But caffeine is just like one of nature, it's most marvelous things. But it turns out you can't overdo it. And so, yeah, a while ago I was drinking so much coffee at work that I was sitting

in a meeting a couple years ago and I started to feel just a little bit, something felt off.

And I just took my pulse and I was realized I was skipping about every 10th heartbeat.

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