Welcome to the Jordan B. Peterson Podcast. This podcast is an amalgamation of

episodes four to six from Maps of Meaning, recorded by TV Ontario. You can

support these podcasts by donating the amount of your choice to Dr. Peterson's

Patreon account, which can be found by searching Jordan Peterson Patreon or by

finding the link in the description. Dr. Peterson's self-development programs

self-authoring can be found at self-authoring.com. Maybe you're 35 years old and you've

never had a job and one of the things that's stopping you is that you're so damn

nervous that you can't pick up a phone and use it because if anything

unexpected happens while you're talking you get scared so badly you have to

hang up and so that would be characteristic of somebody with this of your

anxiety disorder. So what do you do with that person? So you say, well they

afraid of the phone? Well no. What are they afraid of? Well they're afraid of

anomalies and human interaction, right? They're afraid of something

unexpected happening while they're trying to impose a structure and the reason

they're afraid of that is because they never learn that they were capable of

dealing with the emergence of something new on an ongoing basis which meant that

well which meant in all likelihood that when they were children they were so

sheltered. For many contact with those aspects of being that transcend knowledge

that they'd never learned that there was something inside of them that would

reveal itself if they were allowed the opportunity to encounter the unknown, to

encounter fear then to master it then to extract out something of value so they

can't get a job because they can't use the phone and it isn't because they can't

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