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The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett

Manipulation Expert: How To Influence Anyone & Make Them Do Exactly What You Want! - Chase Hughes

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett

FlightStory

Education, Society & Culture, Business

4.517.8K Ratings

🗓️ 19 March 2026

⏱️ 117 minutes

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Summary

Are you being manipulated daily? Behaviour Expert Chase Hughes on the secret formula and hacks behind influence! Chase Hughes is a former US Navy Chief who spent 20 years specialising in applied behavior and interrogation, and a specialist in understanding psychological operations. He is the author of the bestselling book, ‘The Behavior Operations Manual: Neuro-cognitive Intelligence Training Manual’.  He explains: ◼️The 4-step psyop model that secretly controls your behaviour ◼️How to read anyone instantly using behavioural profiling ◼️The “PCP” method that lets you influence any decision ◼️How social media and AI are rewiring your identity ◼️The subtle manipulation tactics used by governments and media 00:00 Intro 00:05:33 Why The PCP Model Might Be Your Edge In An AI-Dominated World 00:08:31 How Breaking Social Scripts Changes The Way People See You 00:10:54 The Hidden Framework That Makes You Instantly More Persuasive 00:21:39 How To Get People To Open Up (Without Forcing It) 00:25:21 Why Precommitment Quietly Controls Your Future Decisions 00:31:24 How To Eliminate Anxiety By Resolving Inner Conflict 00:36:05 What Your Leadership Style Reveals (And What It’s Costing You) 00:38:49 What “Authenticity” Really Means—And Why Most People Get It Wrong 00:40:40 The Childhood Triangle That Still Shapes Your Behavior Today 00:49:46 How Your Childhood Is Secretly Running Your Adult Life 00:56:06 How To Rewire Your Brain Without Realizing It 01:02:00 Why This Break Matters More Than You Think 01:04:03 The Most Dangerous Persuasion Skill (And How It’s Used On You) 01:06:23 Why “The Rich Are Evil” Is More Complicated Than It Sounds 01:09:03 How Psychology Wins Courtrooms (And Everyday Arguments) 01:17:02 How To Apply These Skills Before It’s Too Late 01:26:29 How Changing Your Perspective Can Transform Your Mental Health 01:28:09 What A DMT Experience Actually Feels Like 01:30:34 Are We Living In A Simulation—And Does It Even Matter? 01:35:11 How DMT Can Completely Reshape Your View Of Religion 01:36:55 The DMT Waiting Room Explained (And Why It’s So Unsettling) 01:40:45 What If Consciousness Isn’t Inside Your Body? 01:42:44 How To Make Anyone Feel Truly Seen And Heard 01:46:41 Why Your Insecurities Aren’t What You Think They Are 01:48:42 Why Life Is Supposed To Be Fun (But Doesn’t Feel Like It) 01:49:42 How Expanding Your Skills Might Be The Key To Happiness Follow Chase: YouTube - https://link.thediaryofaceo.com/6PdAJ3p  Instagram - https://link.thediaryofaceo.com/6Rhy1yz  You can purchase Chase’s book, ‘Tongue: A Cognitive Hazard’, here: https://link.thediaryofaceo.com/GgAsWW8  Chase’s quiz: https://www.jordanharbinger.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/The-Hughes-Authority-Assessment-Matrix.pdf The Diary Of A CEO: ▪️Join DOAC circle here - https://doaccircle.com/  ▪️Buy The Diary Of A CEO book here - https://smarturl.it/DOACbook  ▪️The 1% Diary is back - limited time only: https://bit.ly/3YFbJbt  ▪️The Diary Of A CEO Conversation Cards (Second Edition): https://g2ul0.app.link/f31dsUttKKb  ▪️Get email updates - https://bit.ly/diary-of-a-ceo-yt  ▪️Follow Steven - https://g2ul0.app.link/gnGqL4IsKKb  Sponsors: Stan - Visit https://coach.stan.store/?ref=stevenbartlett&utm_source=youtube&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=episode2  LinkedIn Marketing - https://www.linkedin.com/DIARY   Vivobarefoot - https://vivobarefoot.com/DOAC with code STEVENB15 for15% off

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Threadneedle Management Limited February 2025. This is how social media starts roping you in. This is how

0:33.5

politics starts roping you in. This is how cult leaders will recruit you into a cult. It's the number one way that we influence another human being. Microcompliance. And hypnosis is a great example of this. Like, I can have a person laying on the floor unconscious in maybe a minute and a half. And it's very easy to do. Anybody can learn to do it. But one of the things you'll see me do at the beginning of that is like, give me your

0:54.7

hand, put both hands out like this, and then flip them over, you look all the way up and look all the way down. I'll make them do like 50 things. None of the things that I just did with them are meaningful. Everything was micro-compliance. You don't realize that you're going through massive amount of compliance. In order to get your behavior to change or influence another human being.

1:13.5

Use what works for brainwashing. that you're going through massive amount of compliance. In order to get your behavior to change or influence another human being,

1:13.4

use what works for brainwashing.

1:15.5

Because our brains have not developed one more wrinkle in the last 200,000 years.

1:19.6

So a regular example of this is novelty.

1:22.9

Anything novel hijacks our brain.

1:25.2

So if you're trying to change your beliefs, you want to lose this weight,

1:27.8

change something up in your life, change your wardrobe, repaint the walls in your office. You need to tell

1:32.9

the animal part of our brain here because this has been proven on fMRI studies that the decision

1:37.5

shows up before we're conscious of it. What about human to human skills? So people are starving to have

1:42.8

great conversations that are very influential, which means that if I'm an attorney, I can sway a jury. If I'm a hostage negotiator, I save people's lives. If I'm a parent, I raise better kids because I can communicate in a way that gets the outcome that I'm looking for. And you can do that with any of these techniques, like negative dissociation, the childhood development triangle, there's

2:01.2

this thing called the PCP model. And when it comes to influencing human beings, that is the most

2:05.8

important thing that you could ever understand. That might just be the most important skill in

2:09.8

the world. So let's do some role playing. All right.

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