Today on Happy Second Fused, Mandy Moore on making everybody cry week after week on This Is Us.

Hey guys, I'm Josh Horowitz.

She doesn't make me cry.

I'm fine.

I'm totally fine.

No tears in this conversation with Mandy Moore, who, oh my God, if anybody had a name built

for pop culture success, it's Mandy Moore. I mean, don't you know many more isn't your dentist

Mandy Moore is a pop star an actress that makes sense we cover it all in this

conversation this week I'd never I don't like I've ever spoken to Mandy

Moore before I'm going to stop calling

to her Mandy more. I'm just going to say Mandy for the purposes of the rest of this intro.

Okay? I had never spoken to Mandy before because we're close now and I can say just Mandy. But she was great. Really a good

head on her shoulders and a great perspective on a career full of ups and downs and you know certainly hit it big in a

quick way when she I think she was just 15 when she kind of went from being the

National Anthem girl back home in Florida

to opening for in sync on the road and suddenly she's on you know TRL and all these

kind of crazy things and being positioned alongside the likes of Brittany and Christina.

And you know she's very frank and talking about how like she didn't feel she necessarily

compared to them.

Like she never, she never had the huge successes that those other pop stars had.

And she also was frank about saying she didn't love the music she was making back then.

So it took her a while to kind of find her way.

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