Mandy and Nandy: A Labour special

Chopper's Politics

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4.2 • 864 Ratings

🗓️ 25 September 2022

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

As the opposition's party conference takes place in Liverpool, Christopher Hope is joined by two Labour bigwigs from past and present.

Architect of New Labour and now Chairman of Global Counsel, Peter Mandelson joins Christopher Hope to talk about why he believes the public thinks it is safe to vote Labour again, how Sir Keir Starmer's power is that he's "more national than ideological" and confessed that he misses being in Government "every single day". Plus, to Chopper's delight, he declares his support for a new national flagship named after the late Queen Elizabeth.

Also on the podcast, Shadow Levelling Up Secretary Lisa Nandy takes a seat at the Red Lion to talk about how her party can capitalise on the Conservatives' shift to the right, how the right don't have a monopoly on patriotism, and whether she misses Michael Gove.

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0:00.0	We can always not do it and give you a mug and leave.
0:07.0	Actually, I am actually quite busy.
0:10.0	So, thanks. And good luck.
0:19.0	Hello, I'm
0:19.0	Hello I'm Christopher Hope, the Telegraph's Associate Editor for Politics,
0:22.0	and this is Chopper's Politics.
0:25.0	Few, what a week!
0:27.6	It ended with an extraordinary bonfire of taxes by quasi-Quaqutang, the biggest tax cutting let's call a budget budget since
0:35.2	1972 and that's the IFS talking not me we now know what trustnomics is but how
0:41.0	will labor respond well let's go and find out. Before that
0:44.7	announcement came in Parliament on Friday I spoke with two senior figures in
0:48.9	labor who know what's going on. From Bencher Lisa Nandy, the Shadow Leveling Up Secretary, and Peter Manlison, the architect of
0:56.6	New Labour's triumphs in the 90s and early noughties.
1:00.1	Peter Manlison and welcome to Chofatology.
1:04.0	It's great to have you on.
1:05.0	It's very nice to be with you.
1:06.0	Boris Johnson's gone.
1:07.0	This justice in.
1:08.0	Is that good news for your old party?
1:10.0	I will never underestimate your own political opponent. I mean she may be the fourth Tory
1:17.0	Prime Minister in six years with absolutely no clearer idea than her predecessors as to what she wants to do with or for the country,
1:25.4	no mission, no plan, just a great splurge of taxpayers' money from Quasi Quoteng, but don't underestimate her would be my view.
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