Hi and welcome to the working songwriter. The show where today's best songwriters come to talk shop. I'm your host

Joe Pug. Each episode here, we host a distinguished guest, and we ask them to go deep on their

inspiration, on their process, on the general ups and downs of making a life in music. So,

whether you're a grizzled veteran paying a publicist,

three grand a month to get some ears on your new album,

or else a scrappy upstart,

posting to Instagram stories 36 times per day for the same reason,

this is your show,

because ultimately it is what every writer seeks most,

an ironclad excuse to put off actually writing.

Hey, everybody, it's the last Friday of May 2020, and I thank you for joining us.

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