Mandelson: A Homosexual History - Episode Five
Bad Gays
Huw Lemmey & Ben Miller
4.5 • 934 Ratings
🗓️ 27 May 2026
⏱️ 57 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to episode 5 of Mandelson, a homosexual history, a special podcast from the creators of bad gays. |
| 0:29.4 | My name is Ben Miller. I'm a writer, historian, and member of the board of the Shullis Museum in Berlin, |
| 0:34.6 | and also at work on a biography of the fashion designer Rudy Gernrick. |
| 0:38.1 | And my name's Hugh Lemmy. I'm a writer and author. So last week, we left off Peter |
| 0:43.2 | Mandelson with a series of scandals during his time as a minister in the governments of Tony Blair |
| 0:49.4 | in the era of new labor. And people were making the confident prediction that his career in politics was |
| 0:55.9 | toast. So where are we picking up this week, Hugh? Well, Ben, today we're coming towards the |
| 1:01.0 | close, the last couple of chapters of the Mandelson story. And honestly, I think that story couldn't |
| 1:06.0 | be more pertinent at his current moment. As we're recording this on the 18th of May, |
| 1:10.6 | 2026, the Prime Minister, |
| 1:13.2 | Zakia Starrma, is facing a potential leadership challenge and a collapse in legitimacy following two |
| 1:17.9 | major crises. What's interesting is I think both these crises are the responsibility of Peter |
| 1:23.3 | Mandelson, one quite directly. The other are consequences of the changes of which |
| 1:27.8 | Mandelson has been the driving force for almost 40 years. So the first crisis is Starmes' appointment |
| 1:33.5 | of Mandelson as ambassador to the United States, despite his having failed a foreign office |
| 1:38.7 | vetting procedure. At the fallout of that, once Mandelson was outed as a close long-term friend of the child sex trafficker, Jeffrey Epstein. |
| 1:47.7 | The other is the complete decimation of labour in the recent local council elections |
| 1:51.8 | and in national elections for the Welsh and Scottish devolved assemblies, which saw the party lose |
| 1:57.5 | close to 1,500 local council seats and in Wales to lose a century-long winning |
| 2:03.7 | streak as the country's largest party. So in today's episode, we'll talk about Mandelson's journey |
| 2:10.1 | from PM to Pierre and we'll leave off as he is about to become ambassador. And we'll also |
| 2:17.0 | discuss how his enormous influence over |
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