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Bad Gays

Mandelson: A Homosexual History - Episode Five

Bad Gays

Huw Lemmey & Ben Miller

History

4.5934 Ratings

🗓️ 27 May 2026

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

Today we are reaching the next to last chapter––for now!––of the Mandelson story. Listen to the sixth and final episode now by subscribing to Extra Bad Gays on Patreon. As we are recording this, on 18th May 2026, the Prime Minister, Keir Starmer, is facing a potential leadership challenge and a collapse in legitimacy following two major crises, both of these the responsibility of Peter Mandelson; one, directly, the other a consequence of the changes of which Mandelson has been the driving force of for almost 40 years. The first crisis is Starmer’s appointment of Mandelson as Ambassador to the United States, despite his having failed a Foreign Office vetting procedure, and the fallout of that once Mandelson was outed as a close long-term friend of the child sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein, to whom it’s alleged he passed sensitive government and financial information while in power. The other is the complete decimation of Labour in the recent local elections, and in elections for the Welsh and Scottish devolved assemblies, which saw the party lose close to 1500 local council seats and, in Wales, lose a century-long winning streak as the country’s largest party. In today’s episode we’ll talk about Mandelson’s journey from MP to peer to Ambassador, and we’ll also discuss how his enormous influence over that time, usually behind the scenes, has led to a Labour Party and indeed the two party system itself on the edge of total collapse.

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to episode 5 of Mandelson, a homosexual history, a special podcast from the creators of bad gays.

0:29.4

My name is Ben Miller. I'm a writer, historian, and member of the board of the Shullis Museum in Berlin,

0:34.6

and also at work on a biography of the fashion designer Rudy Gernrick.

0:38.1

And my name's Hugh Lemmy. I'm a writer and author. So last week, we left off Peter

0:43.2

Mandelson with a series of scandals during his time as a minister in the governments of Tony Blair

0:49.4

in the era of new labor. And people were making the confident prediction that his career in politics was

0:55.9

toast. So where are we picking up this week, Hugh? Well, Ben, today we're coming towards the

1:01.0

close, the last couple of chapters of the Mandelson story. And honestly, I think that story couldn't

1:06.0

be more pertinent at his current moment. As we're recording this on the 18th of May,

1:10.6

2026, the Prime Minister,

1:13.2

Zakia Starrma, is facing a potential leadership challenge and a collapse in legitimacy following two

1:17.9

major crises. What's interesting is I think both these crises are the responsibility of Peter

1:23.3

Mandelson, one quite directly. The other are consequences of the changes of which

1:27.8

Mandelson has been the driving force for almost 40 years. So the first crisis is Starmes' appointment

1:33.5

of Mandelson as ambassador to the United States, despite his having failed a foreign office

1:38.7

vetting procedure. At the fallout of that, once Mandelson was outed as a close long-term friend of the child sex trafficker, Jeffrey Epstein.

1:47.7

The other is the complete decimation of labour in the recent local council elections

1:51.8

and in national elections for the Welsh and Scottish devolved assemblies, which saw the party lose

1:57.5

close to 1,500 local council seats and in Wales to lose a century-long winning

2:03.7

streak as the country's largest party. So in today's episode, we'll talk about Mandelson's journey

2:10.1

from PM to Pierre and we'll leave off as he is about to become ambassador. And we'll also

2:17.0

discuss how his enormous influence over

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