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Being Well with Forrest Hanson and Dr. Rick Hanson

Managing the Freeze Response: Dissociation, Emotional Shutdown, and Creating Safety

Being Well with Forrest Hanson and Dr. Rick Hanson

Being Well

Health & Fitness, Education, Self-improvement, Mental Health

4.82.4K Ratings

🗓️ 1 April 2024

⏱️ 75 minutes

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Summary

What do dissociation, avoidance, and emotional shutdown all have in common? They’re connected to the “freeze” response to stress. In one of our favorite episodes to date, Dr. Rick and Forrest explore the freeze response in detail. They talk about what stress responses are, how they impact our behavior, and why different people tend to default to different coping strategies. Forrest explains what freezing looks like in practice, and why the freeze response can be particularly difficult to navigate. Dr. Rick then shares a number of helpful strategies for working with the freeze response, including strengthening self-confidence, and the feeling of ourselves as someone who can create safety. Towards the end of the episode they discuss managing these tendencies in a relationship. You can watch this episode on YouTube. Key Topics: 0:00: Introduction 1:15: Understanding stress responses 9:05: Stress responses in relationship 15:25: Why it's hard to see that you're freezing 19:05: Dissociation, and what freezing looks like in practice 23:55: Steps of moving through dissociation 30:05: Self-awareness, ‘global’ conditioning, and unconditional positive regard 38:10: How Rick would work with someone who freezes: a hypothetical case study 53:45: Seeing yourself as a source of safety 1:02:55: Recap Offer from Dr. Rick: If you'd like to improve your self-worth, check out Rick's new 4-hour, live online workshop. You'll learn methods and practices that can actually change your brain and your habits, so you start nurturing your sense of worth and belonging. Our listeners can get 20% off with coupon code BeingWell20: https://selfworthworkshop.com/ Forrest is now writing on Substack, check out his work there. Support the Podcast: We're now on Patreon! If you'd like to support the podcast, follow this link. Sponsors OneSkin focuses on delivering more than superficial results for your skin. Get started today with 15% off using code BEINGWELL at oneskin.co. Get your stand on with UPLIFT Desk! Go to UPLIFT Desk.com/BEINGWELL for 5% off your order of one of their fantastic standing desks or office products. Trust your gut with Seed’s DS-01 Daily Synbiotic. Go to Seed.com/BEINGWELL and use code 25BEINGWELL to get 25% off your first month. Connect with the show: Subscribe on iTunes Follow Forrest on YouTube Follow us on Instagram Follow Forrest on Instagram Follow Rick on Facebook Follow Forrest on Facebook Visit Forrest's website Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello and

0:05.0

welcome to being well I'm Forrest Hansen.

0:10.0

If you're new to the podcast, thanks for listening today.

0:12.8

And if you've listened before, welcome back.

0:15.2

I'm joined today as usual by clinical psychologist Dr Rick Hansen.

0:18.8

Dad, how are you doing today?

0:20.4

I'm really good and thoroughly psyched for the topic today.

0:24.0

Yeah, I've been really looking forward to this one.

0:26.0

Today we're going to be focusing on working with dissociation, avoidance,

0:30.0

and emotional shutdown, which are all linked to the freeze response to stress.

0:35.4

Every stress response has its challenges and the freeze response in particular has some features

0:39.8

that make it pretty unique. But to get to the freeze response

0:43.7

and understand it a little bit better,

0:45.6

it's really helpful to have context

0:47.5

on our stress responses in general.

0:49.8

And as I was going through the process

0:52.4

of prepping for this episode, I found some material and started thinking about things myself in a way that really interested me.

0:58.7

And I'm really curious what your take on all of this is as well here, Dad.

1:02.4

So we're going to start with understanding

1:04.0

what's going on here conceptually, which will then give us some ideas of what we

1:07.8

can do practically. And then in the second half of the episode I'll be

1:11.0

asking you for a lot of practical how-to so does that sound good? Yes. Great. So in order to

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