I'm Maura Aronsmeli, and this is The Anxious Achiever.

We look at stories from business leaders who have dealt with anxiety, depression, or other mental health challenges, how they fell down, how they pick themselves up, and how they hope workplaces can change in the future.

How are you?

No, I mean it, really.

How are you?

Today's guest, Poppy Jaman, OBE, will tell us how she taught a bunch of high-priced lawyers to revolutionize their leadership style simply by asking that question in a different way.

Poppy is so thoughtful and so much fun, it's because she understands what makes her stressed and she takes her self-care seriously. It's also because she is deeply mission-driven, but she's learned to manage her boundaries and have fun along the way.

I wanted to explore the ways mission-driven work can create specific emotional challenges with Poppy

and ask what it's like to devote your career

to mission-driven work while caring for your mental health. The pressure to succeed in our careers

affects so many of us and can contribute to anxiety. We work long hours to eventually win awards,

get promotions, make more money, or become a recognized expert or well-known

force in our industry. But of course, we work so hard for something deeper to accomplish our

mission. And nowhere is that more clear than in the nonprofit world, a place where success may not

always come with all the accolades

and bonuses. And success may not even come at all if the problems you're tackling are just too

complicated for one person or one organization to fix. Pappy Jaman, OBE, this means the queen honored her,

was the founding CEO of Mental Health First Aid England.

She's now program director for the City Mental Health Alliance,

a network of thought leaders from the City of London-based organizations committed to improving and raising awareness of mental health in the workplace.

And she's been fighting for much of her career to increase awareness in the space.

So Poppy, tell us a little bit about the organization that you run now.

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