Next on Making Sense of the Madness, we'll analyze today's latest breaking news with Zach Payne from Red Pill 78.

We are going to question the mainstream narrative and expose media propaganda right now. Well, Zach Payne is the host of Red Pill News on Red Pill 78, and he's on several shows on Badlands Media as well,

Zach. So great to finally meet you. You've been following your work for several years now,

and great to have you on the show. I wanted to ask you about the narrative pivot that's happening

so quickly regarding the origins of COVID. And Robert Redfield going under testimony there,

throwing Fauci under the bus.

Wanted to get your take on that.

Yeah, it's quite striking, isn't it?

And please, let me also say it's an honor and a privilege to be here with you as well.

Sean, you guys do great work.

Well, you know, I think that the most likely candidate for the reasonings behind this sudden pivot is likely the

peace deal that China has recently proposed between the United States and Russia. The entire

proxy war that we've been fighting through Ukraine against Russia has pushed Russia, China,

you know, a number of the BRICS nations closer together.

And it's kind of ironic, isn't it, that after sort of being the arbiter of both war and peace for so many years here on Earth,

it's now China who is upstaging us and potentially bringing this conflict to a close. You know, I mean, this is by no means something that's popular with the people of the United States.

And I think most people would agree that it's hurting us.

It's not helping anything, really.

And it's a conflict that I think the vast

majority of us would like us to stay out of. And if that comes as a result of the efforts of China,

then that will significantly boost their presence on the world stage and reduce the presence

of the United States. So now, all of a sudden, after a couple of years of telling America and the world that the

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