This is exactly right.

Of the Law and Order franchises, SVU is considered especially watchable.

We are the amateur detectives who kind of investigate the vicious felonies these episodes are based on.

These are our stories.

Dun dun. D-D-D-D-D-D.

Hello, welcome back to That's messed up.

I'm Kara.

And I'm Lisa, and here we talk about SVU True Crime. We have celebrity guests today is a real barn burner.

Totally. That's a saying I know from big business, but I actually am here to confront Kara and Casey.

Uh-oh. Yeah, that's what we're starting with.

Is it the cards? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I got a lot of DMs that you guys are gaslighting me.

That, of course, I've mentioned it and that you're gaslighters. Cue the Dixie Chicks.

No, a couple people, a gaslighter. A couple people said, wait, I don't remember Lisa talking about the cards either.

And I've been a day one listener.

And I was like, what is happening?

Is there like, I'm sorry, as you talked about it more, I was like, I do remember something about this.

But then when you did say, I go, when did

you start this? You go, December, it had only been six months. It wasn't like you've been talking

about it for years. I just, I was, what do you have to say? I'm just, I'm shocked to hear this

information. You know, I listen intently to every single episode of this show. And he listens over and over

again. He has to cut out all of our ums and beeps and bobs. He listens so much. You know, I guess

Lisa, she just has so many passions. It's just hard to like keep them all documented in my brain,

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