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The Evolution of Horror

MAN-MADE MONSTERS #36: Poor Things (2023) & The Substance (2024)

The Evolution of Horror

Mike Muncer

Tv & Film, Film History

4.81.7K Ratings

🗓️ 1 May 2026

⏱️ 117 minutes

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For the final double bill of our Man-Made Monsters series, Mike is joined by Honey Ross to discuss two recent films about female identity and bodily autonomy: POOR THINGS and THE SUBSTANCE.

Hosted, Produced and Edited by Mike Muncer

Music by Jack Whitney 

Artwork by Mike Lee-Graham

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0:00.0

Don't forget to receive ad-free versions of the Evolution of Horror.

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0:04.5

Patreon.com slash evolution of horror. Across this series, we've talked a lot about two of cinema's most notorious mad scientists,

0:35.0

Victor Frankenstein and Dr. Jekyll. One created a monster using pieces of dead

0:40.5

bodies, the other created a monster by unleashing something from within himself. Over the last

0:47.1

century, we've seen countless adaptations and twists and spins on these tales, and two in particular,

0:56.0

both released over the last few years,

1:02.3

both directed by European filmmakers, were received with huge critical acclaim and even Academy Award recognition. In 2023, Yorgos Lantemos created a new kind of bride of Frankenstein

1:09.4

with poor things. The story of a mad scientist creating

1:13.1

a woman, Bella Baxter, who embarks on a journey of independence and self-discovery.

1:19.6

And in 2024, Coralie Farger told a Jekyllen Hyde-esque story about a fading film star,

1:26.4

injecting herself with a serum known as the substance to create a younger, more beautiful version of herself with horrific consequences.

1:40.9

Join me as we conclude our journey through the evolution of man-made monsters, and we discuss

1:46.6

Jorgos Lanthamos's poor things, and Corrili Fargeuts, the substance.

1:57.1

Welcome back to the evolution of horror. My name is Mike Munser and as ever I am your host. In this

2:02.6

podcast, we explore and dissect the history and the evolution of the horror genre, one subgenre

2:07.4

at a time. We are currently in the middle of our 11th series exploring the evolution of man-made

2:13.1

monsters. And this is part 36. We have reached our final double bill of the series. We've reached

2:20.7

the end of this journey, this epic journey, to discuss two absolute masterpieces, two Oscar

2:26.5

nominated gems from the last handful of years, Yorgos Lanthimos, Poor Things, and Coralie Fajat's

2:32.5

The Substance. Both of these discussions will be spoilerific.

2:36.6

So if you haven't seen these films, what are you doing?

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